Comments on: Using both channels (an audio channel is a terrible thing to waste) http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/ "Everybody who cares for his art, seeks the essence of his own technique." -- Dziga Vertov (1922) Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:49:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/comment-page-1/#comment-264169 David Tames Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:04:51 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/#comment-264169 The HPX170 basically has two XLR inputs mapped to Ch 1 and Ch 2 and the camera mic is mapped to Ch 3 and Ch 4. If you want to run a third Lav to the camera, one way to do it is to use a Mixer. I use a Sound Devices 302 mixer with three inputs and two outputs. This makes it easy to mix three sources. For example, Lav 1 could go to Ch 1 and Lav 2 and Lav 3 could be mixed to Ch 2. Since DVCProHD supports 4 channels, it's a shame Ch 3 and 4 could not be input to the camera in some way, even a mini input would have been nice. The HPX170 basically has two XLR inputs mapped to Ch 1 and Ch 2 and the camera mic is mapped to Ch 3 and Ch 4. If you want to run a third Lav to the camera, one way to do it is to use a Mixer. I use a Sound Devices 302 mixer with three inputs and two outputs. This makes it easy to mix three sources. For example, Lav 1 could go to Ch 1 and Lav 2 and Lav 3 could be mixed to Ch 2. Since DVCProHD supports 4 channels, it’s a shame Ch 3 and 4 could not be input to the camera in some way, even a mini input would have been nice.

]]> By: DANTE http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/comment-page-1/#comment-264089 DANTE Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:31:44 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/#comment-264089 David, I also use a HPX170, and have shot with two LAV mics, when not using the camera mic at all. Here's my question: is there ANY way to splice in a third LAV? I'm working with two interviewers and I'd like to be able to put both of them and their subject on a LAV for optimal sound. Any thoughts? Thans! Dante, Chicago David, I also use a HPX170, and have shot with two LAV mics, when not using the camera mic at all.

Here’s my question: is there ANY way to splice in a third LAV? I’m working with two interviewers and I’d like to be able to put both of them and their subject on a LAV for optimal sound.

Any thoughts?

Thans!

Dante, Chicago

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/comment-page-1/#comment-235867 David Tames Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:12:52 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/#comment-235867 Larry, good comments, I sometimes run two separate mics into the two XLR connectors on the XLR adapter that came with the camera (it's a Sony HVR-A1U) or into the two XLR inputs on the Panasonic HPX170 (the camera I'm using for my current documentary project), however, when I'm using a tiny camcorder, or the A1U in "small as possible mode without XLR adapter" mode, this strategy provides a very light and compact way to bring a second mic into the situation. Even if I'm not going to use the interviewers voice, it's sometimes nice for the editor to hear what the interviewer said. This is one delightful feature of the HPX170, it records the camera mic audio into Channels 3 and 4, which is very useful in many situations, like hearing the interviewer close to the camera, or picking up general stereo ambient sound. I wish more cameras recorded four channels, and that Panasonic offers a way to route external audio into Ch 3 and 4 in future prosumer offerings. Larry, good comments, I sometimes run two separate mics into the two XLR connectors on the XLR adapter that came with the camera (it’s a Sony HVR-A1U) or into the two XLR inputs on the Panasonic HPX170 (the camera I’m using for my current documentary project), however, when I’m using a tiny camcorder, or the A1U in “small as possible mode without XLR adapter” mode, this strategy provides a very light and compact way to bring a second mic into the situation. Even if I’m not going to use the interviewers voice, it’s sometimes nice for the editor to hear what the interviewer said. This is one delightful feature of the HPX170, it records the camera mic audio into Channels 3 and 4, which is very useful in many situations, like hearing the interviewer close to the camera, or picking up general stereo ambient sound. I wish more cameras recorded four channels, and that Panasonic offers a way to route external audio into Ch 3 and 4 in future prosumer offerings.

]]> By: Larry Lawfer http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/comment-page-1/#comment-235855 Larry Lawfer Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:15:34 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2009/08/13/2ch/#comment-235855 David, I use the same mic, but a different setup, and a different camera. I use the XLR cable that comes with the Sennheiser and put it into channel one and have it record on both channel one and two. This works when the interviewer's voice is not heard, as it is with my work. Your approach is perfect for the interviewer who needs to be heard. In this case I usually use a second mic (as you did) but XLR that one into another channel. Thanks for the demo. David,
I use the same mic, but a different setup, and a different camera. I use the XLR cable that comes with the Sennheiser and put it into channel one and have it record on both channel one and two. This works when the interviewer’s voice is not heard, as it is with my work. Your approach is perfect for the interviewer who needs to be heard. In this case I usually use a second mic (as you did) but XLR that one into another channel. Thanks for the demo.

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