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	<title>Comments on: Quick and dirty Kodak Zi9 camera test</title>
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		<title>By: David Tames</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Yes, I cut the above clip in Final Cut Pro 6.x. I did have to render the clip. It&#039;s hard for FCP to decode H.264 material in real-time on a Mac Book Pro (my computer is so last year). I edited the clip using Apple Pro Res 720p as the sequence codec as to not add any more compression artifacts while editing. Shooting with these little cameras that encode to H.264 is great, but you are starting with video that&#039;s way more compressed and artifacty than the gorgeous clean high data rate DVCPRO HD video (Panasonic HVX200) the low-artifact MPEG of HDV (Sony&#039;s FX1, V1, etc.)  or high data-rate MPEG of XDCAM HD (Sony F350) or XDCAM EX (Sony EX1). But we&#039;re comparing heirloom apples to common oranges.

I&#039;m not sure what is the reason I was able to read Kodak&#039;s H.264 clips from this camera without any problems, but maybe it&#039;s because I have Perian installed on my machine which greatly expands the range of codecs that QuickTime can deal with.

If you want to see a higher quality output of this same clip, check out a much higher quality H.264 output, here&#039;s a direct link to a 720p HD version of the above clip:  http://blip.tv/file/get/Kinoeye-QuickKodakZi6TestDarkInteriorWithLightFromWindow379.m4v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Yes, I cut the above clip in Final Cut Pro 6.x. I did have to render the clip. It&#8217;s hard for FCP to decode H.264 material in real-time on a Mac Book Pro (my computer is so last year). I edited the clip using Apple Pro Res 720p as the sequence codec as to not add any more compression artifacts while editing. Shooting with these little cameras that encode to H.264 is great, but you are starting with video that&#8217;s way more compressed and artifacty than the gorgeous clean high data rate DVCPRO HD video (Panasonic HVX200) the low-artifact MPEG of HDV (Sony&#8217;s FX1, V1, etc.)  or high data-rate MPEG of XDCAM HD (Sony F350) or XDCAM EX (Sony EX1). But we&#8217;re comparing heirloom apples to common oranges.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what is the reason I was able to read Kodak&#8217;s H.264 clips from this camera without any problems, but maybe it&#8217;s because I have Perian installed on my machine which greatly expands the range of codecs that QuickTime can deal with.</p>
<p>If you want to see a higher quality output of this same clip, check out a much higher quality H.264 output, here&#8217;s a direct link to a 720p HD version of the above clip:  <a href="http://blip.tv/file/get/Kinoeye-QuickKodakZi6TestDarkInteriorWithLightFromWindow379.m4v" rel="nofollow">http://blip.tv/file/get/Kinoeye-QuickKodakZi6TestDarkInteriorWithLightFromWindow379.m4v</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve Garfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve Garfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been posting the raw .mov files up to Vimeo.

http://vimeo.com/stevegarfield

There you can click on the right hand column of each video and see the video exactly as the camera shot it.

I have no problem editing in QuickTime Pro and iMovie, I get an error tryign to open the .mov file in my older version of FCP, even with Periean installed.

David WAS able to edit in his newer version of FCP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been posting the raw .mov files up to Vimeo.</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/stevegarfield" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/stevegarfield</a></p>
<p>There you can click on the right hand column of each video and see the video exactly as the camera shot it.</p>
<p>I have no problem editing in QuickTime Pro and iMovie, I get an error tryign to open the .mov file in my older version of FCP, even with Periean installed.</p>
<p>David WAS able to edit in his newer version of FCP.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://kino-eye.com/2008/11/15/kodak-zi9-quick-test/comment-page-1/#comment-204319</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I&#039;d share – We just bought a couple of these to test for the young filmmakers in the Howcast Emerging Filmmakers Program and the results were pretty commendable. This spot was made entirely using one and the filmmaker didn&#039;t do anything special. The micro shots look pretty great: http://www.howcast.com/videos/68768-How-To-Style-Your-Hair-With-Mousse

Thanks for the test. I need to take one out myself and mess around with it for a few days myself. 

(Hey, is that Doyle&#039;s?....Makes me miss JP.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I&#8217;d share – We just bought a couple of these to test for the young filmmakers in the Howcast Emerging Filmmakers Program and the results were pretty commendable. This spot was made entirely using one and the filmmaker didn&#8217;t do anything special. The micro shots look pretty great: <a href="http://www.howcast.com/videos/68768-How-To-Style-Your-Hair-With-Mousse" rel="nofollow">http://www.howcast.com/videos/68768-How-To-Style-Your-Hair-With-Mousse</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the test. I need to take one out myself and mess around with it for a few days myself. </p>
<p>(Hey, is that Doyle&#8217;s?&#8230;.Makes me miss JP.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Rogers</title>
		<link>http://kino-eye.com/2008/11/15/kodak-zi9-quick-test/comment-page-1/#comment-204302</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, Hi Steve.

Have you brought any of the 720P mov into FCP? I&#039;ve found that some clips need to be rendered, others not. I have an earlier Kodak that does need rendering while a Canon A610 and A530 do not. Curious about this generation of Kodak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, Hi Steve.</p>
<p>Have you brought any of the 720P mov into FCP? I&#8217;ve found that some clips need to be rendered, others not. I have an earlier Kodak that does need rendering while a Canon A610 and A530 do not. Curious about this generation of Kodak.</p>
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