Comments on: Suggested DVX100 settings and information links http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/ "Everybody who cares for his art, seeks the essence of his own technique." -- Dziga Vertov (1922) Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:51:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dorit Grunberger http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-275025 Dorit Grunberger Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:03:19 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-275025 Thanks David, I didn't get your reply in time for my shoot, but decided to go ahead with a 4:3 shoot and stay in 4:3 for DVD and projection as well. Still not ready for HD and wasn't convinced that 4:3 SD would look nice enough on the newer flat screen TVs in 16:9. Thanks for your input Thanks David,

I didn’t get your reply in time for my shoot, but decided to go ahead with a 4:3 shoot and stay in 4:3 for DVD and projection as well. Still not ready for HD and wasn’t convinced that 4:3 SD would look nice enough on the newer flat screen TVs in 16:9.

Thanks for your input

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-274872 David Tames Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:58:54 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-274872 with the dvx (still use on occasion though now i'm shooting with an HPX170) sometimes i shoot squeeze, sometimes i shoot 4:3 and make 16:9 later, gives you a little more flexibility to adjust the frame. it's more work in post, so it's a trade off, but if you put 'lines' on the viewfinder, then only some shots will need reposition. letterbox simply puts black bars in. squeeze is ok to, it's a personal reference thing. avoid the anamorphic lens, trouble more than worth. with the dvx (still use on occasion though now i’m shooting with an HPX170) sometimes i shoot squeeze, sometimes i shoot 4:3 and make 16:9 later, gives you a little more flexibility to adjust the frame. it’s more work in post, so it’s a trade off, but if you put ‘lines’ on the viewfinder, then only some shots will need reposition. letterbox simply puts black bars in. squeeze is ok to, it’s a personal reference thing. avoid the anamorphic lens, trouble more than worth.

]]> By: Dorit Grunberger http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-274863 Dorit Grunberger Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:19:29 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-274863 Oooops! I meant masking the LCD of course, not the lens :-) Oooops! I meant masking the LCD of course, not the lens :-)

]]> By: Dorit Grunberger http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-274861 Dorit Grunberger Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:02:41 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-274861 Hi There! I just noticed you replied to my message today...THE day of a big shoot. I was all prepared to to go for squeeze settings and now I'm confused again. Are you suggesting I shoot my regular 4:3 (and perhaps apply gaffer's tape, or such in front of the lens) and then convert to 16:9 in post? Will putting tape in front of the lens give me the same quality as 16:9 letterbox setting on the DVX100? I have FCP Studio 3, so lots of post power but I'm not sure how to transcode or convert 4:3 to 16:9. If you happen to see this post today, I'd so appreciate a response ASAP Thanks David, Dorit Hi There!
I just noticed you replied to my message today…THE day of a big shoot. I was all prepared to to go for squeeze settings and now I’m confused again.
Are you suggesting I shoot my regular 4:3 (and perhaps apply gaffer’s tape, or such in front of the lens) and then convert to 16:9 in post? Will putting tape in front of the lens give me the same quality as 16:9 letterbox setting on the DVX100? I have FCP Studio 3, so lots of post power but I’m not sure how to transcode or convert 4:3 to 16:9.
If you happen to see this post today, I’d so appreciate a response ASAP

Thanks David,
Dorit

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-273482 David Tames Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:53:03 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-273482 Unlike most SD cameras, the DVX100/a/b has a long useful life, especially since it's true progressive recording (with vertical detail set to thin) provides a very nice image, about as good as you're going to get with a prosumer SD camera. That said, the reality of today's standards dictate that any new camera purchased should record full HD. Of course, DVX footage cropped to 16:9 can intercut acceptably with HD footage when shot well and without vertical blur (e.g. vertical detail set to thin). The issue of up-resing is do you want to do it in the camera or do it in post where you have a choice of tools and techniques to do it. I prefer at this point to shoot 4:3 and crop / upres in post. This gives you flexibility to optimize the composition. In the end it's an aesthetic choice, primarily. I've been shooting my current documentary with the excellent follow-up to the DVX100, the HPX170 (similar to the HPX200 but without a DV tape mechanism and a nice waveform monitor). I'm very happy with the HPX170 and the operation is very similar to the DVX100 series. Unlike most SD cameras, the DVX100/a/b has a long useful life, especially since it’s true progressive recording (with vertical detail set to thin) provides a very nice image, about as good as you’re going to get with a prosumer SD camera. That said, the reality of today’s standards dictate that any new camera purchased should record full HD. Of course, DVX footage cropped to 16:9 can intercut acceptably with HD footage when shot well and without vertical blur (e.g. vertical detail set to thin). The issue of up-resing is do you want to do it in the camera or do it in post where you have a choice of tools and techniques to do it. I prefer at this point to shoot 4:3 and crop / upres in post. This gives you flexibility to optimize the composition. In the end it’s an aesthetic choice, primarily. I’ve been shooting my current documentary with the excellent follow-up to the DVX100, the HPX170 (similar to the HPX200 but without a DV tape mechanism and a nice waveform monitor). I’m very happy with the HPX170 and the operation is very similar to the DVX100 series.

]]> By: Dorit Grunberger http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-273441 Dorit Grunberger Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:10:51 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-273441 Hi there really enjoyed reading your old DVX100a tips & settings article above. I do have some questions. We're a small production company that has so far made videos out to DVDs for non-profit organizations. Always shoot in 24p, 4:3. Obviously, the world is changing rapidly. Not only is 16:9 the norm now, stereoscopic is entering the stage. While we're not yet sure what our next step in purchasing a camera will be, we're trying to increase the life and usefulness of our beloved DVX100a. This was all a preamble to the following question: for our upcoming project (still output to SD-DVD), I'd like to end with the best possible settings in 16:9. I understand there will be quality loss if I don't use an anamorphic lens (which I'm not planning on doing). I don't quite get the difference between squeezing and letter-box in terms of final picture quality and best settings for up-resing later. Could you baby-step me through the differences and if you suggest 16:9 letterbox, will the letterbox be visible on a flat panel TV or not? Sorry for the wordiness and look forward to your reply, Thanks, Dorit Hi there

really enjoyed reading your old DVX100a tips & settings article above. I do have some questions. We’re a small production company that has so far made videos out to DVDs for non-profit organizations. Always shoot in 24p, 4:3.
Obviously, the world is changing rapidly. Not only is 16:9 the norm now, stereoscopic is entering the stage. While we’re not yet sure what our next step in purchasing a camera will be, we’re trying to increase the life and usefulness of our beloved DVX100a. This was all a preamble to the following question: for our upcoming project (still output to SD-DVD), I’d like to end with the best possible settings in 16:9. I understand there will be quality loss if I don’t use an anamorphic lens (which I’m not planning on doing). I don’t quite get the difference between squeezing and letter-box in terms of final picture quality and best settings for up-resing later. Could you baby-step me through the differences and if you suggest 16:9 letterbox, will the letterbox be visible on a flat panel TV or not?
Sorry for the wordiness and look forward to your reply,

Thanks,

Dorit

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-260208 David Tames Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:26:47 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-260208 Wendy, I have no experience with sony vegas, I do my editing with Final Cut Pro, however, there are lots of people out there editing DVX footage with vegas, check out the forums on DVinfo.net for more details. Wendy, I have no experience with sony vegas, I do my editing with Final Cut Pro, however, there are lots of people out there editing DVX footage with vegas, check out the forums on DVinfo.net for more details.

]]> By: WENDY http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-260203 WENDY Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:27:08 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-260203 I want to know before I buy this camera does anyone know if it will work well with my sony vegas pro 8. please email back and let me know. Thanks and blessings to all ur footage. I want to know before I buy this camera does anyone know if it will work well with my sony vegas pro 8. please email back and let me know. Thanks and blessings to all ur footage.

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-260119 David Tames Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:05:49 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-260119 Val, for sports I'd suggest shooting at 60i for reduced motion blur. I'll email you too. Val, for sports I’d suggest shooting at 60i for reduced motion blur. I’ll email you too.

]]> By: Dvx100 Pro http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-260097 Dvx100 Pro Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:43:44 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-260097 The DVX100B does 4X3, LETTER BOX and 16X9 SQUEEZE. The DVX100B does 4X3, LETTER BOX and 16X9 SQUEEZE.

]]> By: Val http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-259933 Val Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:28:37 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-259933 Pls could you abvise what would be the best DVX-100B settings to shoot the hockey games ? Thank you.Val Pls could you abvise what would be the best DVX-100B settings to shoot the hockey games ? Thank you.Val

]]> By: David Tames http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-246422 David Tames Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:38:11 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-246422 Tim, The DVX100b is by far the best Standard Definition camera out there, however, these days, if you can swing the budget, I'd suggest shooting HD if you can, for an HDV camera the Sony V1U is a good economical option (with XLR audio inputs) but you'll get a better picture and audio with something like the Panasonic HPX170 or HVX200 or later models which are the successors to the DVX100b. These days I'd suggest shooting 16x9 when you can, but you crop the 4:3 of the DVX if you need to to get 16:9. Always shoot PROGRESSIVE and definitely real 30p or 24p (advanced) if you can with the vertical detail set to thin for the sharpest image possible. This way the DVX gives you SD images that scale up to HD better than most SD cameras. Hope that helps, David. Tim, The DVX100b is by far the best Standard Definition camera out there, however, these days, if you can swing the budget, I’d suggest shooting HD if you can, for an HDV camera the Sony V1U is a good economical option (with XLR audio inputs) but you’ll get a better picture and audio with something like the Panasonic HPX170 or HVX200 or later models which are the successors to the DVX100b.

These days I’d suggest shooting 16×9 when you can, but you crop the 4:3 of the DVX if you need to to get 16:9. Always shoot PROGRESSIVE and definitely real 30p or 24p (advanced) if you can with the vertical detail set to thin for the sharpest image possible. This way the DVX gives you SD images that scale up to HD better than most SD cameras.

Hope that helps,

David.

]]> By: firefighter Tim Andrew http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-245912 firefighter Tim Andrew Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:46:35 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-245912 Filmed my last movie was filmed in 4.3 w/ a sony pd150. You can watch it in 10 parts on youtube; timandrew1 ...anyways, my camera was lost at film school, thanks to my son. I am looking at the DVX 100. I like mini DV. So, here are the questions, even after I read your article. Our next movie will also go to festivals, hoping for a movie release. this movie is a scary film. 1. I read that standard & advance have their advantages. I still am up in the air. 2. How important is HD for this? 3. 16.9 seems to be important for distributing, no? but then it says 4.3, and a studio can stretch it to 16.9. I'm told stretching is no good. 4. 24p is important also, no? thank you, firefighter tim andrew naugatuck, ct [EMAIL AND PHONE HIDDEN] please email me, it's best. Filmed my last movie was filmed in 4.3 w/ a sony pd150. You can watch it in 10 parts on youtube; timandrew1

…anyways, my camera was lost at film school, thanks to my son. I am looking at the DVX 100. I like mini DV. So, here are the questions, even after I read your article. Our next movie will also go to festivals, hoping for a movie release. this movie is a scary film.

1. I read that standard & advance have their advantages. I still am up in the air.
2. How important is HD for this?
3. 16.9 seems to be important for distributing, no? but then it says 4.3, and a studio can stretch it to 16.9. I’m told stretching is no good.
4. 24p is important also, no?

thank you,

firefighter tim andrew
naugatuck, ct [EMAIL AND PHONE HIDDEN]

please email me, it’s best.

]]> By: dvx http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/comment-page-1/#comment-204930 dvx Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:46:24 +0000 http://kino-eye.com/2005/02/16/dvx100settings/#comment-204930 By the way, these settings (originally posted in the era of the 100a) are also relevant for the 100b. The differences between the 100a and 100b are outlined in this excellent article: <a href="http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/100b/" rel="nofollow">DVX100B - The Evolution of Excellence</a> on DVXUser.com. By the way, these settings (originally posted in the era of the 100a) are also relevant for the 100b. The differences between the 100a and 100b are outlined in this excellent article: DVX100B – The Evolution of Excellence on DVXUser.com.

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